Comments on: Cognitive Dissonance: Why Mass Delusions Persist

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By: Seth

Seth — Thu, 10 Jun 2010 12:25:12 +0000

Mass delusion persists for one reason and one reason only, non-interactive mass media. From Gutenberg to Farnsworth people gradually became more educated (indoctrinated), and less capable of independent critical thinking. Only the rise of the interactive education qualities of the Internet have help, a little bit, to reverse this trend — specifically blogging and commenting. Unfortunately, I suspect it is too little too late. At this point, the average human has lost so much mental capacity that the wheel couldn’t be reinvented in the absence of directions from an authority figure.

By: Ben

Ben — Thu, 10 Jun 2010 02:46:14 +0000

I guess what I’m saying is that we can believe there are better ways of doing something, but since we can’t test it, we can’t know…

By: Ben

Ben — Thu, 10 Jun 2010 02:43:16 +0000

Not sure what you mean here. The ‘spiritual’ exists regardless of whether I think of it or not.

By: Puzzled

Puzzled — Thu, 10 Jun 2010 02:40:25 +0000

Because the ‘spiritual’ is a property of what the evolved brain thinks.

By: Puzzled

Puzzled — Thu, 10 Jun 2010 02:36:49 +0000

It has nothing to do with an eye. It’s been pointed out that other models work better. My point is not this – my point is that your response takes the laws of physics, reality, etc. to be given, but this is simply not true if God is designing everything. You can’t talk about “well, the eye would get damaged” if God can just fix that without making the eye upside down.

The ability of the brain to reason is independent of the process by which it was made. If you want to say that brains cannot reason, you need an argument other than the process by which it was made – particularly since reasoning properly would have great evolutionary value.

By: Ben

Ben — Thu, 10 Jun 2010 02:35:53 +0000

I mentioned this above, but I’ll further ask here.
Science has shown that there is a part of humans that is non-material. Call it a spirit, soul, whatever you want. But there is plenty of evidence that confirms it.

Science fiction movies would have us believe that as computers become more and more complex, they will eventually become conscious and start making judgements, holding beliefs, etc. But it just won’t happen, and it’s nothing but make believe that consciousness comes at a certain point of complexity. How does something “spiritual” arise from mere matter.

By: Ben

Ben — Thu, 10 Jun 2010 02:31:09 +0000

I am not saying it’s inconsequential. I just think you’re ideas are flawed, and untestable, unless you have the ability to create a living eye and test your hypothesis.

Second, if you are correct and we all did evolve from nothing, how smart would I be if I trusted the random firings of synapses in your brain. Further, if I just evolved to where I am now, do I have the ability to believe something?

By: Ben

Ben — Thu, 10 Jun 2010 02:26:54 +0000

Exactly, we both believe it was a miracle. I believe that miracle happened because and ID made it happen. Seems evolutionists just think it happened, and (at least in my mind) are too afraid of the implications to accept that something had to have made it happen.